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Mara Gordon, MD's avatar

I IMMEDIATELY opened this one. Very, very relatable to my life as a family doctor. Thanks for sharing a bit about your lives. <3

Istiaq Mian, MD's avatar

You're welcome Mara...as you can tell, I'm a fan of family doctors! I've subscribed to your publication and look forward to reading/learning more.

Grace Farris's avatar

Thank you Lindsey!! 🥹 I read this Div of Labor closely as a fellow hospitalist. Excited to check out this doctor’s Substack!

Lindsey Stanberry's avatar

Thank you, Grace!! (Totally fan-girling over here, LOL)

Amelia Wilson's avatar

Don't want to scare Grace, but I too have a low-key crush on her! 🥰

Istiaq Mian, MD's avatar

Thank you Grace! And wow, a hospitalist who makes comics, I'm so intrigued (and impressed, if Lindsey and Amelia are big fans, I'm sure I will be, too!)

Sarah's avatar

As a fellow hospitalist with a toddler I loved this one. I am in awe of 2-physician households. My husband works a 9-5 from home which makes our lives so much easier. This was a great read!

Istiaq Mian, MD's avatar

Thank you Sarah, nice to meet other hospitalists here!

Clarissa Deng's avatar

Oh man so goes the life of working parents. Great work juggling, fitting it all in, and just when you thought the day was done, top it off with a vomit situation. Well done though, both parents. 👏🏼 Hat tip to grandma too.

Istiaq Mian, MD's avatar

I second the hat tip to Grandma!

Kristine's avatar

This one was so relatable for me, thank you! Although my husband and I aren’t in medicine, this really resonates with where we are in our lives- navigating early elementary school & activities, while both working 55-60 hours each week. I am in awe of these parents and glad they are able to make it work. So many good takeaways from this one.

Madelin's avatar

Wow I can’t even imagine both of us working that much! I wonder how this schedule will change as the kids get older. My kids are 11 and 10 and there is just so much running around required afterschool for activities and sports training.

Istiaq Mian, MD's avatar

Thanks for reading Madelin. I will say my weeks off are the saving grace and when I have time to recharge/be available. I've thought about cutting back in the future so I can be more present for kids events and what not, especially if my mother-in-law moves back home. I am privileged in having the balance that my job provides me and feel lucky to be financially in a spot where I could consider cutting back.

Kelly's avatar

I have this same question, but for myself! My husband and I are not physicians but work between 40-60 hrs per week each in international focused jobs that require late night work calls with Asia or early morning calls with Africa. We have a 5 and 8 year old in full time school and then aftercare until 6pm. I see my friends with middle schoolers who have one parent available to do all of the afterschool shuttling once they start doing All. the. things. Our jobs are not so well paid that we can afford a nanny for this. I guess we can figure out a very convoluted car pooling situation, but I'm just dreading this and wondering how people with two full time working parents and no local family do it? I don't plan to allow my children to sign up for everything under the sun, but I don't want them to not be able to do any afterschool activities. Everyone I ever talk to or read about has one parent with a flexible or not super stressful job or is SAH, or the couple has money to afford a nanny or parent helper, or they have local family. I'm not sure how else to do it. As I'm writing this I think I've just outlined why living in America is untenable. Anyway, all to say, would love to hear more about this!

Lindsey Stanberry's avatar

Kelly, I can look for a family like this to feature. But I do think that you're probably right: carpooling will be key. That's where the village comes in. (I know it's easier said than done!) In NYC, you also see middle schoolers getting a lot more freedom to use public transportation to get around. I wish other cities made it easier.

Madelin's avatar

The thing I notice is that the kids want US to do the running around! I take it as a compliment - they want to be with us! But… it is such a shift from when they were younger in long care in how to manage work. We have a babysitter who does the afternoon pickup and activities 2 days a week but boy do they complain! It’s a tough one - it’s only say 5/6 years of the later primary school early high school days so not a long time in the scheme of things. Plus the schools do early finishes at end of term or for random days which is super annoying. They definitely assume there is a parent available for this. I just find it so different to the daycare/early primary school days. Managing work and kids schedules is a constant evolution.

Nancy's avatar

Vomiting in the top bunk is a big reason we ditched said bunks! Loved reading this one as a part-time healthcare provider and mom of 4. I have the *utmost* respect for these two parents doing the damn thing full-time. I bow down!

Nancy's avatar

And also a former Madisonian/UWMF physician assistant. Hello from Milwaukee!

Istiaq Mian, MD's avatar

Hello from Madison, Nancy! I'm still loving the bunk beds just because the kids are so into it but I know they have a shelf life. That was fortunately the first time we had to deal with vomit on the top bunk!

Brenna's avatar

Yay Istiaq lovely to see you and your wife here! What a lovely and busy family! Well done for being good parents 👏🏻

Istiaq Mian, MD's avatar

Thank you Brenna! I thought of you the other day, I finished reading Good Inside by Dr. Becky and I think you had told me you read her work to reparent yourself? The book was so good!

Brenna's avatar

Yes little does Doctor Becky know this book has two use cases. 😂

Tee's avatar

I also immediately opened this one. I really wanted to know how parents with full time complex schedules (and arguably complicated careers) are doing it. Though I’m also biased working in a clinical/science field (but not patient care). This was so good; kudos to this family for being so intentional about having full work lives and spending time with their kids. Learned a lot here !💕

Madeline's avatar

What does 4K mean (for the grade one of their kids is in)?

Lindsey Stanberry's avatar

we call it "pre-K" in NYC, it's just the "grade" before kindergarten.

Madeline's avatar

Thank you!

Marlena's avatar

Fellow Madisonian! Thanks for sharing your story, and hope the illness was short-lived.

Istiaq Mian, MD's avatar

short-lived, just related to the meal. and hi Marlena!! where do you like to read around Madison? pitching a hammock over one of the lakes with a good book is such a treat.

Marlena's avatar

A hammock along the Yahara is ideal, and I live for days lounging at B. B. Clarke beach. In recent weeks I've read at Wonderstate, Cafe Domestique on the north side, and Ancora on King Street.

The Midst's avatar

Yet another great edition!

Elle's avatar

This is a great one! Huge fan of the three tips: Meeting up for coffee, used things, and the cargo e-bike.

Thomas Foydel's avatar

I like the photo of your wife on the bike with the kids! She has that smile that all Moms eventually have: I'm smiling now because it's required, but later I will accidentally kick you in the groin.